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Have you heard of `def`?

It was an earnest question. I didn’t intend to be sarcastic.

I went through evaluating a bunch of frameworks. There was Langchain, AG2, Firebase Gen AI / Vertex / whatever Google eventually lands on, Crew AI, Microsoft's stuff etc.

It was so early in the game none of those frame works are ready. What they do under the hood when I looked wasn't a lot. I just wanted some sort of abstraction over the model apis and the ability to use the native api if the abstraction wasn't good enough. I ended up using Spring AI. Its working well for me at the moment. I dipped into the native APIS when I needed a new feature (web search).

Out of all the others Crew AI was my second choice. All of those frameworks seem parasitic. One your on the platform you are locked in. Some were open source but if you wanted to do anything useful you needed an API key and you could see that features were going to be locked behind some sort of payment.

Honestly I think you could get a lot done with one of the CLI's like Claude Code running in a VM.


Which abstractions in langchain do you find so useful which require significant code to replicate yourself in functions with OpenAI SDK / LiteLLM?

SW:

- Architecting larger scale applications

- A project which is related to fundamentals (like compilers, OS) rather than run of the mill web development.

Not SW:

- Motorcycle internals and general repair skills

- Ancient sanskrit grammar


That way leaving employment for lesser ones among us

One thing this comment (and recruiters) don't understand is that someone with foundation can learn these things pretty fast within few months.

> can learn these things pretty fast within few months.

This totally misses the point. You can learn anything pretty fast in some ways. The point of what my comment replied to was about not learning at all. It was about learning something some years ago and letting it sit like interest in a bank without investing further.


If I was in china's position and so much is at stake, how can I go towards engineering all the tech from scratch when I can reverse engineer existing tech from west?

You wouldn't and you shouldn't. You should copy. It's what I would've done also. It's just what it is.

It's also the foundation of the US economy. Look up the cotton gin patent some time. And the early days of Hollywood.

And textile production and the industrialization of New England.

When I joined I could do all this.

> put in a lot of attention into work and they have that innocent curiosity

They're also good at putting company code into ChatGPT.

/snark


If that was the case I would be chilling during my junior years.

Juniors are usually given either grunt or low priority work while seniors get more "important" work.

OTOH, it takes a lot to get your questions on RIGHT EARS when you're a junior, so wouldn't agree with your characterization at all.


It really depends on the workspace. Some places will give juniors serious work items specifically to grow them.

This is definitely based on a search or page fetch, because there are these which are all today's topics

- IBM to acquire OpenAI (Rumor) (bloomberg.com)

- Jepsen: NATS 4.2 (Still losing messages?) (jepsen.io)

- AI progress is stalling. Human equivalence was a mirage (garymarcus.com)


The OP mentioned pasting the current frontpage into the prompt.


It has also fetched the current page in background. Because the jepsen post was recently on front page.


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