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Reads like AI was involved.


Yes, Gemini was lurking in the toolbox, participating in the typesetting and providing precise syntax error logs; it corrected me.


If anything it's the opposite. Many in HK in the 60s and 70s were much in favor of uniting with China, there were protests and movements about that. Took lots of British propaganda and a lot of clampdown to change the minds of the younger more inexperienced generations.


>what in theory makes those "super easy" to isolate? Humans are terrible at this to begin with,

Humans are amazing at it. You can discern the different instruments way better than any stem separating AI.


>Instead of considering that something should be written encapsulated into an object to maintain state, it will instead write 5 functions, passing the state as parameters between each function.

Sounds very functional, testable, and clean. Sign me up.


I know this is tongue in cheek, but writing functional code in an object oriented language, or even worse just taking a giant procedural trail of tears and spreading it across a few files like a roomba through a pile of dog doo is ... well.. a code smell at best.

I have a user prompt saved called clean code to make a pass through the changes and remove unused, DRY and refactor - literally the high points of uncle bob's Clean Code. It works shockingly well at taking AI code and making it somewhat maintainable.


>I know this is tongue in cheek, but writing functional code in an object oriented language, or even worse just taking a giant procedural trail of tears and spreading it across a few files like a roomba through a pile of dog doo is ... well.. a code smell at best.

After forcing myself over years to apply various OOP principles using multiple languages, I believe OOP has truly been the worst thing to happen to me personally as engineer. Now, I believe what you actually see is just an "aesthetics" issue, moreover it's purely learned aesthetics.


Does its output follow the "no comments needed" principle of the uncle Bob?


Not so much tongue in cheek, but a little on the light side, sure.

I'd argue writing functional code in C++ (which is multi-paradigm anyway), or Java, or Typescript is fine!


Care to share the prompt? Sounds useful!


Sure. Please improve it and come back around to let me know.

https://gist.github.com/prostko/5cf33aba05680b722017fdc0937f...


Who said it wasn't except the ones doing it?


>I can't imagine how you could even design something in CAD in a way that you would end up in this situation.

Are all CAD programs parametric or make their parametric functionality obvious? If not, that's how you end up in this situation.


It's not about parametric functionality being obvious, it's that you can't draw something that isn't parametric in the sense described. At least I don't think I would be able to if I tried.


It's pretty trivial


Art will be created like AI - like it already got its hands on graphic design, and game art, and vfx, and music.

It will leave not-yet-automatable grudge work to people instead.


The "never rose above a couple of thousand" small group refers to the number of activist Luddites. It doesn't refer to the people working in the textile industry in general - which was a big group, and which was heavily affected.


Even "all textile workers" was never a large fraction of "all workers."


>Every time we automate something the luddites cry out about the coming mass unemployment. It has never happened

It has happened each and every time, it just haven't affected you personally. Starting of course with the original luddites - they didn't complain out of some philosophical opposition to automation.

Each time in changes like this a huge number of people lost their jobs and took big hits in their quality of life. The "new jobs", when they arrive, arrive for others.

This includes the post 1990s switch to service and digital economies and outsourcing, which obliterated countless factory towns in the US - and those people didn't magically turn to coders and creatives. At best they took unemployment, big decreases in job prospects, shitty "gig" economy jobs, or, well, worse, including alcohol and opiods.

With AI it's even worse, since it has the capacity to replace jobs without adding new ones, or a tiny handful at a hugely smaller rate.


Strictly speaking outsourcing to cheap labour isn't automation.


Strickly speaking yes, I say the "switch to service and digital economies and outsourcing" though, which also includes lots of automation, but also because it's not just automation where people say removes jobs and others say it's fine, but also switches to different kinds of economy (which see the same arguments).

For the purposes of the discussion, even considering automation and outsourcing alone, the effect is the same though: the human job dissapears from the local market, but the company still gets the thing made.


This can be read as if IBM did this unknowingly and only before WW2.

But IBM knew what they were assisting with, and even pre-WW2 was already assisting the Nazi regime of 1933-1939. And they didn't stop come WW2, if anything IBM opened new subsidiaries and continued throughout the second world war.

"(...) IBM leased, rather than sold, its machines. The company retained control of punch-card supply and provided service through subsidiaries. Each set of cards was custom-designed to Nazi requirements. He later wrote that the IBM headquarters in New York oversaw these arrangements through subsidiaries across Europe"

"(...) IBM New York created a subsidiary in Poland, Watson Business Machines, after the 1939 invasion. The firm managed railway traffic in the General Government and ran a punch-card printing shop near the Warsaw Ghetto. He stated that this subsidiary reported through Geneva to IBM New York, and revenues were transferred accordingly."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust



It was authorized by the CEO, Thomas J. Watson Sr., who apparently had a "soft spot" for the Nazis. Hitler decorated him: https://www.nytimes.com/1937/07/02/archives/thomas-j-watson-... and it took the occupation of France and the Low Countries three years later for Watson to decide to return the medal.


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